Dali, The Persistence of Memory발음듣기
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Dali, The Persistence of Memory
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(piano music) Steven: At the Museum of Modern Art there is this tiny painting by Salvador Dali, which is the painting that everybody wants to see.발음듣기
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We thought it would be really interesting to talk about why this painting is so wildly popular.발음듣기
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I mean anybody who has ever tried to make an album for a rock band is inspired by Salvador Dali.발음듣기
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There is also this kind of fun of, "What are you looking at?" is really playing with reality.발음듣기
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Is it on album cover art because it's this attack on the rational and that's such a seductive idea?발음듣기
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Dali, the Spanish artist, this Catalin Artist, had just come to Paris and had joined the Surrealist group.발음듣기
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Sal: I'm assuming he's considered significant because he was the first person to essentially do dreamscapes, and as you mentioned, attack on the rational.발음듣기
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Steven: When you walk into this painting visually, you enter into this really deep open and lonely space, and is this really quiet image.발음듣기
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Sal: Yeah it's kind of this desert-scape, ignoring the melting clocks for a moment, you feel that okay if you were in this landscape, yes, time really does not really carry a lot of weight.발음듣기
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We do have this very naturalistic rendering but the things that are being rendered are not naturalistic at all.발음듣기
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You mentioned the dead tree on the left but it's growing out of something that seems clearly man-made or at least geometric, a table top perhaps.발음듣기
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You have ants that seem to be eating and attracted to a piece of metal as opposed to a piece of rotted flesh.발음듣기
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And that's such an interesting and provocative idea because time is something that is so regimented.발음듣기
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Time is something that rules us, that is so associated with the industrial culture that we live in, and here it responds to the environment as we respond to the environment.발음듣기
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And even the way the light is set up, especially on the cliff, it looks like it's sunset so it's kind of like, "Hey another day has passed, who cares?"발음듣기
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For all the absurdity and for all of the impossibility of what we're seeing, there are some things that our historians have recognized.발음듣기
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The cliffs in the back are, we think, the cliffs of the Catalonian coast in Northern Spain where Dali is from and so this is his childhood perhaps.발음듣기
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Steven: Yeah, Dali does that fun thing where one object can actually be several things at once, sometimes really convincingly.발음듣기
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Sal: That goes back in the category of is this more that kind of dorm room optical illusion type art.발음듣기
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Surrealism positive to that, the rational world that we have so much faith in, was perhaps not worthy of all that faith.발음듣기
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And the way that these artists and writers thought about it was if only they could retrieve the world of the dream.발음듣기
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But the idea that the dream was a place where the irrational mind came to the fore unrestricted.발음듣기
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Even the notions that how we perceive what we think is objective reality is really based on how our brain is wired.발음듣기
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Look, there are different forms of reality and who are we as creatures that are wired one particular way to be all that judgmental about what's real.발음듣기
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Steven: When people have looked at this painting they have sometimes, I think unconvincingly, tried to link it to fine signs earlier, ideas of the ...발음듣기
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I think there is more evidence that Dali is thinking about, ideas of a philosopher's name who is Berkson, who thought about time as something that was not simply what struck on a clock.발음듣기
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But that there was something that kind of unit of time that was more subjective and that expanded and contracted according to our experience.발음듣기
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We completely don't understand it, even though it's kind of the most fundamental component of our existence.발음듣기
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It's kind of like if you label something or you measure something, you feel like you actually understand it even though you don't.발음듣기
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