Housing Price Conundrum (part 3)발음듣기
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So just a bit of review.발음듣기
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What happened from 2000 to 2004?발음듣기
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Actually I should really say, from 2000 to 2006, because that really was when the housing bubble happened.발음듣기
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Well financing got easier. Or essentially they lowered their standards.발음듣기
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And it got progressively easier and easier and easier, every year we went.발음듣기
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So then that allowed more people to bid on homes.발음듣기
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So it increased the demand artificially in certain ways.발음듣기
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Because we saw from that New York Times article that people's incomes weren't increasing, and the population wasn't increasing anywhere near as fast to soak up the supply.발음듣기
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So all it did is allow people who were renting before, and who couldn't save the money for the down payment, now to participate.발음듣기
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So now you had more people bidding for the same house, to bid up houses.발음듣기
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But that led to the obvious question.발음듣기
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Why did financing get easier and easier?발음듣기
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So let's go back to the good old days, like the early '90s.발음듣기
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Or actually, let's go even before that.발음듣기
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Let's go to the classic, what happens to get a housing loan?발음듣기
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Well traditionally, if I want to get a loan I would go to my bank.발음듣기
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And that loan officer at the bank, he's going to be giving the bank's money for your house, right?발음듣기
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He gives you money. And you're going to pay him interest. Right?발음듣기
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This is me. And so that loan officer at the bank, he really cares that they're not going to lose money on the transaction.발음듣기
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If he's going to give you $1 million, he wants to make sure that no matter what happens, if you lose your job, if you get arrested, if you skip town, that he's still going to be able to get his $1 million back.발음듣기
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And if you go back to our equity and balance sheet presentations, that's why, back in the day, they made sure that you put 20%, 25% down payment on your house, that you had a good credit rating, that you had a good steady income.발음듣기
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Because that banker, that loan officer, was going to be in trouble.발음듣기
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And his bonus was based on how good the loans he gave held up.발음듣기
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So that was the traditional model.발음듣기
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What happened - started to happen the mid-90s, especially in California, and then nationwide in about 2001, 2002 - is you had what we call a securitization of the mortgage market.발음듣기
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And this, in all fairness, this actually happened a while before, with things like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.발음듣기
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And I'll do a completely separate video on those.발음듣기
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But Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac essentially had the same standards.발음듣기
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They had the standards of, we call them, conforming loans.발음듣기
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I think the numbers - you have to have 20% down.발음듣기
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You have to have a certain credit score, certain steady income.발음듣기
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So Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were these entities that might buy the loan from your local banker.발음듣기
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But their standards were just as high as the local banker's.발음듣기
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And they were based - I think they were actually, they had oversight by Congress.발음듣기
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So they weren't giving away loans for free.발음듣기
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But I'll do a whole other presentation on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.발음듣기
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What you had happen in the late '90s, and especially in the early part of this decade, is you had a whole industry outside of the government-sponsored entities.발음듣기
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The government-sponsored entities are Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.발음듣기
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And this is essentially - instead of you going to your local bank for a loan - this is me again - I would go to my local mortgage broker.발음듣기
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Countrywide is the most famous of them.발음듣기
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I think they're CFC. That's their stock ticker.발음듣기
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They're not bankrupt yet. So I would go to Countrywide.발음듣기
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And essentially I would get $1 million from them, a home loan.발음듣기
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I would get $1 million from them.발음듣기
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And I'd agree to pay interest to Countrywide.발음듣기
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But then Countrywide would do this like, a million times.발음듣기
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So times a million, right? They'll give home loans to a million people, put them all together.발음듣기
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And then they'll sell the loans.발음듣기
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They'll sell the loans to like, let's say, Bear Stearns.발음듣기
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So that's an investment bank. Let's call it Bear Stearns.발음듣기
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Hope none of these people sue me.발음듣기
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I guess they have bigger troubles now, then wondering about my YouTube videos.발음듣기
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They sell it to Bear Stearns.발음듣기
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And then Bear Stearns will package a bunch of these mortgages together, essentially IOU's from people.발음듣기
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And then they would sell those to investors. Right?발음듣기
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So essentially, instead of Countrywide being responsible for my loan, my payments now go to these investors.발음듣기
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And you could watch the - that says investors.발음듣기
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I know my penmanship is horrible.발음듣기
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But you should watch the videos on mortgage-backed securities and collateralized debt obligations, if you want to get a better understanding of exactly how the money flows go.발음듣기
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But the bottom line is, because of this process, what's happening?발음듣기
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Countrywide is just being a transactional.발음듣기
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They're just doing the paperwork for my loan.발음듣기
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They're temporarily holding the loan. And they're doing a little bit of due diligence.발음듣기
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And in return for that, that Countrywide mortgage broker will just get a fixed fee for doing that transaction.발음듣기
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Maybe they'll get like $5,000 for just doing the paperwork for my mortgage. Right?발음듣기
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And then Bear Stearns will package a bunch of these mortgages up - and now it's going to be in the billions - and then repackage them and sell them to investors.발음듣기
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In the process, Bear Stearns gets a cut.발음듣기
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And Bear Stearns is doing this for millions of mortgages at a time.발음듣기
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It's in the billions of dollars, and Bear Stearns gets a cut.발음듣기
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So Bear Stearns essentially just gets a fee, like the mortgage broker.발음듣기
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Of course it's a huge fee.발음듣기
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And then the investors are going to get my interest payments. Right?발음듣기
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And let's say if the interest rates, if I'm paying 7%, and the other million people are paying 7%, the investors are going to get 7% on their money.발음듣기
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And that seems like a pretty reasonable proposition.발음듣기
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And of course the investors would care that the money that they're essentially giving - because they're giving money to the investment bankers who are giving money to Countrywide.발음듣기
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And that's where my $1 million is essentially coming from.발음듣기
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The only reason why the investors would give their money, is if they have a lot of confidence that these are really good loans.발음듣기
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Well the investors, they don't know who I am.발음듣기
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They don't know what my job is, how likely I am to pay the loan.발음듣기
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So the investors have to rely on someone to tell them that these are good loans.발음듣기
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And that's where the rating agencies come in.발음듣기
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And these are Standard & Poor's and Moody's.발음듣기
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And they rate these assets, these mortgage-backed securities.발음듣기
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And what they say is, well, they'll look at this big package of mortgages, these million mortgages that Bear Stearns has packaged together.발음듣기
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And they'll look at the historical default rate.발음듣기
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And they'll say, wow, these mortgages really haven't been defaulting.발음듣기
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And you can think about why they haven't.발음듣기
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Because housing prices been going up.발음듣기
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So these mortgages really haven't been defaulting.발음듣기
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There's a very high chance you're going to be able to get all your money back.발음듣기
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So we're going to give these what they call, let's say they say AAA rating.발음듣기
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So this investor, who knows, it could be the Central Bank of China.발음듣기
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It could be a hedge fund.발음듣기
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It could be a whole set of people.발음듣기
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It might be the investment banks themselves.발음듣기
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Sometimes they actually bought these just to make some extra money.발음듣기
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These investors, they don't know who actually borrowed the money, or what kind of credit rating they had, or anything.발음듣기
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But they just took a leap of faith.발음듣기
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They said well, Standard & Poor's or Moody's did the work.발음듣기
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They're telling me that this is AAA, which means the highest level of debt.발음듣기
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Or you know, whatever they told them.발음듣기
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Maybe it was A. I forget all the different qualities of debt.발음듣기
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But they just took their word for it.발음듣기
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And they got their 7% interest on their money - whatever it was, 6% money.발음듣기
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And that worked out pretty well.발음듣기
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And so these guys, they liked the fact that they were getting the 7%.발음듣기
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They said, this is a good asset class.발음듣기
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So then they funneled even more money.발음듣기
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So then there were even more investors that wanted do this.발음듣기
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They're like, this is great, with very little risk I'm getting a pretty good return on my money.발음듣기
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That's better than putting it in the bank.발음듣기
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That's better than buying Treasury Bills, right?발음듣기
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So then even more money flowed in.발음듣기
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Well, more money wanted to invest in people's mortgages.발음듣기
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But Countrywide would say, well, we're already giving mortgages to all the people who qualify.발음듣기
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So in order to actually find more people who want mortgages from us, we'll just have to lower the standards a little bit.발음듣기
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Right? And we can lower the standards, because we find even when we do lower the standards, no one's defaulting on their mortgages.발음듣기
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And in the next video, I'll maybe give a little bit more [? color ?] why.발음듣기
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So Countrywide will issue even more mortgages, and give them to these investors with even lower standards.발음듣기
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Of course, the mortgage brokers at Countrywide, they love it.발음듣기
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Because every time they do a transaction, they just get some money.발음듣기
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And then they give the mortgage to the investment banker, which packages them up and then sells them to investors.발음듣기
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So they get it off their hands.발음듣기
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And they just got the fee.발음듣기
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So they just collect the big cash.발음듣기
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The investment banks love it, right?발음듣기
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They just love doing the transactions, because they get more and more money every time they do the transactions.발음듣기
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And for the moment, the investors seem pretty happy, because they keep giving money into this system, so to speak.발음듣기
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Even though they might be reading the newspaper and seeing that the standards are going down.발음듣기
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But they're consistently getting their return.발음듣기
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And because the defaults were very low over this time period and I'll explain in the next video why the defaults were very low - they felt that they were getting a good return, maybe 6% or 7%, on investments that had very, very low risk.발음듣기
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So in the next video, I'll explain why the defaults were very low in that time period. See you soon.발음듣기
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