Hesse, Untitled

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(piano playing) [Voiceover] This sculpture's not usually up, but it's a great Hesse.발음듣기

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It's sort of wonderfully awful.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] What do you mean by wonderfully awful?발음듣기

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[Voiceover] She's so pushing boundaries in so many important ways.발음듣기

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I think in order to really appreciate Hesse, it's really important to understand what her friends, what the Avant-garde was doing at this moment.발음듣기

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She was hanging around with people like Ad Reinhardt, with a whole series of artists that were involved in a kind of high conceptualism, where there was an attempt to create a perfection in the physical world that represented a kind of ideal.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] A kind of purity.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] A kind of purity that was incredibly cerebral, it was incredibly geometric.발음듣기

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One has a sense when you look at that kind of work, that anything that anybody could make, that Ad Reinhardt could make, for instance, would be just sort of a platonic shadow of the truth that he was after.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] Well, leave it to a woman to bring us something down and dirty.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] I think she did that really consciously.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] I don't doubt it.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] She was a very conscious feminist in that sense.발음듣기

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It's early for sort of that phase of feminism, but I think she was very aware of the implications of her making something by hand that was based in this old secondary tradition of handy craft that women had been saddled with.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] So she's wrapped thin rope around this semi-circular-발음듣기

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[Voiceover] ... form that's hung by-발음듣기

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[Voiceover] ... nails on the wall.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] It's actually a beautiful kind of swooping line that's created there.발음듣기

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But the first impression you have when you look at this because it's this dark brown and it's got this waxy kind of build up, it's just incredibly organic and incredibly handmade and it feels like it's of the body.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] It feels very bodily.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] You could think about the connotations here, what does it remind-발음듣기

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[Voiceover] Pooped it out or uh-발음듣기

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[Voiceover] Yes, it's scatological, it's intestines.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] Menstrual even.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] It's menstrual or it could even be phallic right?발음듣기

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[Voiceover] Or phallic or breasts even hanging down.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] It could be sausage, right?발음듣기

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So you've got this really uncomfortable kind of interaction between bodily functions that we don't like to have mesh. (laughs)발음듣기

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We don't like to see these things together, but there's kind of incredible ambiguity.발음듣기

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Actually, if you just think about the human body has been represented historically.발음듣기

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This is a pretty radical way of dealing with the human body and the way in which we think about ourselves right, if this is food, if it's excrement, if it's our own bodies represented all together somehow, that's a pretty intense series of associations.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] That's true, but it's something that I feel like feminism is going to take up and really run with this.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] They will and I think Hesse is rightfully seen as one of the most important artists that so many people then later respond too.발음듣기

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I can't imagine Kiki Smith's work, for instance, without Eva Hesse.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] There's also a kind of primitivism here, it looks like-발음듣기

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[Voiceover] It just looks like a fetish object in an African culture.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] It really does.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] Kind of weapon or something like that, too.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] Oh, so this seems because of it's materiality, because of it's sort of oldness and it's handmade-ness this feels like it could be in an ethnographic museum.발음듣기

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That actually plays directly into what we were talking about a moment ago, in terms of its self-conscious secondary-ness which is embedded in this because we always think of that as not fine art, right?발음듣기

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[Voiceover] Right.발음듣기

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[Voiceover] So is she every self-consciously putting herself forward not as an artist in the highest order.발음듣기

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It's really in opposition to what her friends were doing, what was happening in the art world.발음듣기

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She's great. (piano playing)발음듣기

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