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Less versus fewer
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[David] So I have always in my usage, I've always drawn a distinction between 'less' and 'fewer'.발음듣기
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I wouldn't say I'm one of those sticklers that goes around correcting signs at the grocery store checkout.발음듣기
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Look, like I'm the last person that wants to needlessly subscribe to grammar superstitions, right?발음듣기
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[Rosie] Alright. I'm gonna make a broad statement to start with and we can kind of dig into it.발음듣기
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But my argument is that you can use 'less' to mean or to refer to both countable items, count nouns and to larger mass nouns but you can only use 'fewer' to ref.발음듣기
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So, count nouns are essentially nouns that you can count individually as in individual entity.발음듣기
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[David] Okay. So I can count, not that I'd want to grains of sand individually but I guess what you're saying is I couldn't count.발음듣기
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[David] Sand. Like, let's say for some reason you and I were having a sand counting contest.발음듣기
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[Rosie] Right. You could get fewer hours of sun exposure but my argument and this is where I think you and I differ is that I believe you could also say "I'm getting less hours of sun exposure."발음듣기
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[Rosie] Is that this trend or this idea that fewer always has to go with the count noun is really just as far as I can figure just a thing that some guy named Robert Baker wrote in this book.발음듣기
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[Rosie] He wasn't some guy, I guess he was at the time he was sort of a front-runner in terms of talking about language.발음듣기
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And what Robert Baker said in the book and this is, I mean, people have looked at this and tried to trace the origins of this 'fewer/less' issue with count nouns.발음듣기
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No fewer than a hundred appears to me not only more elegant than no less than a hundred, but strictly proper.발음듣기
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He says, "Appears to me not only more elegant than less than a hundred but strictly proper."발음듣기
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Okay so maybe this strictly proper sounds a little intimidating but he's stating an opinion here.발음듣기
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And he just thinks, "Ah, I feel like fewer would do better" so he's going on this gut impulse.발음듣기
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[David] Right~? Like there's nothing would you think there's anything ungrammatical about saying, "There is fewer, I get fewer sun."발음듣기
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[Rosie] Right. And so I guess that's what I'm getting at is in Standard English these days we see 'less' being used when referring to both count nouns and mass nouns and I think that's fine.발음듣기
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[Rosie] Yeah. I don't see any problem with that especially since the only real reasoning that anybody can find to go on is this one persons opinion from 1770.발음듣기
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[David] And lest you think that we're replacing one dudes opinion from 1770 with two peoples opinion from the present like I get that that's a legitimate criticism that you can make but what we're trying to say is that this reflects the way that language.발음듣기
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You can use 'less' to refer to count nouns and mass nouns but 'fewer' only in refer to count nouns.발음듣기
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Because this actually reflects the way that these words are used in what is called 'The corpus of English' like the body of language that bounces around everyday.발음듣기
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[Rosie] Exactly. And the one exception that I would say comes back to this question of context and style that David and I have been talking about.발음듣기
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If you're writing a formal paper you probably wanna use 'fewer' to refer to count nouns because in that context I mean that's still kind of what's on the books as the "right way".발음듣기
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