Paul Gauguin, Self-Portrait with Portrait of Émile Bernard (Les misérables)

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Paul Gauguin, Self-Portrait with Portrait of Émile Bernard (Les misérables)

[Steven] We're in the Van Gogh Museum and we're looking at two paintings both self-portraits one by Paul Gauguin and the other by Emile Bernard.

[Beth] And there's a third self-portrait associated with these two but it's not here in this museum.

[Steven] It's by Van Gogh.

And the idea behind all three of these was that these artists who were living in separate places were going to exchange self-portraits as a way of building a community of artists that were outside of the academic salon.

[Beth] And this was Van Gogh's idea which makes total sense to me because he was always searching for artists who he could feel really in sync with.

[Steven] He got the idea from a tradition that came from Japanese printmakers who would exchange prints among each other.

It's really a lovely idea.

[Beth] It is a lovely idea and especially for someone who was as lonely and as difficult as Van Gogh was.

And you could also think about it in the context of just how isolated it often felt in the late 19th century to be an artist.

And looking back across cultures and across time to a moment when artists worked together in communities and workshops.

[Steven] Now Van Gogh was down in Provence.

He was in the south of France.

Gauguin and Emile Bernhard were together up in Pont-Aven in Brittany.

Both quite rural places but on opposite ends of France.

[Beth] And Pont-Aven actually was an artists community in the late 19th century a place where artists would come together and paint nature.

[Steven] And Gauguin had gone there in hopes of getting away from what he saw as the sort of corrupt society of Paris into what he hoped would be a more authentic place where people lived much more closely to the land.

[Beth] So here in this painting, though he's specifically identifying himself with a character from a Victor Hugo novel Les Miserable.

And the idea is a hero very much like the kinds of heroes we have in Hollywood movies today a kind of loner who does the right thing.

[Steven] Think John Wayne, Harrison Ford.

These are people who are often breaking laws in order to do the right thing but he is, while not breaking laws at least breaking rules.

[Beth] And it may be hard for us to see that today when we look at this painting because it looks very beautiful and like many other Impressionist and post-Impressionist paintings that we love.

But to 19th-century eyes this looked harsh and garish in its colors.

It looked unfinished.

It looked uncomposed.

[Steven] Gauguin says in a letter to Van Gogh describing the painting that this was abstract and it's so interesting because now when we think of abstract we often think of geometric shapes and not representational painting.

But for Gauguin, this was abstract.

It was the turning away from the careful delineation of light and shadow what would've seemed to the eyes of a 19th-century viewer to be very aggressive painting.

[Beth] So let's go back to that idea of the loner.

How does Gauguin attempt to communicate that idea of the outsider here?

[Steven] Well, for one thing he's not in the center of the canvas.

He's pushed himself off to the left.

He's placed a floral wallpaper in back of him which he actually makes fun of in his letter to Van Gogh.

[Beth] Well, he characterizes it as girlish or feminine.

[Steven] And he's trying to create a contrast between that ornate, bourgeois wallpaper and the harsh figure himself.

[Beth] He forms that stark diagonal line across the lower left corner of the painting.

[Steven] He does it with shadow he does it with color and he does it with the heavy outline that describes these forms.

[Beth] When you compare it to the Bernard painting he's given himself a real look of intensity.

[Steven] Now this is a little bit confusing because you were referring to the other painting by Bernard but Bernard also shows up in the upper right hand corner of this painting.

What we're seeing is a canvas by Gauguin that's being sent to Van Gogh but Bernard paints his own self-portrait in the upper right corner of Gauguin's painting so this is actually two self-portraits.

And you're right.

Gauguin really does look mischievous.

[Beth] I think mischievous is an understatement.

If I saw him coming down the street I would go the other way.

[Steven] This intensity also comes out so clearly in Van Gogh's portrait that he sent to Gauguin in turn.

[Beth] And I see it as a kind of scrutinizing a kind of questioning to us.

Who are you~?

What are your values?

Are you sure you think that's right?

[Steven] There's a real certainty of his role as existing outside and revealing the truth even if he has to do so violently.

This notion of the avant-garde this notion of an artist who stands outside but has a kind of greater perspective is so much based in the previous.

100 years of French history if you think about the French revolutions that took place and the series of political upheavals.

[Beth] By the end of the 19th century you have not only this history of political revolutions but also an enormous mass middle-class marketplace and it's oppressive.

It is demanding art that does certain things that looks a certain way that tells certain kinds of stories.

[Steven] The traits that the middle class were looking for that were expressed in the salon were sentiment, virtuosity in terms of painting a kind of rehashing of the traditions of the Baroque and of the Renaissance but now in more modern scenes.

[Beth] Well, and much more sentimental.

I mean, that's what the middle class wanted was paintings that told a nice story just like we go see Hollywood movies that tell a nice story.

And outside of that arena, art is vilified but these artists wanted to do something different.

As they're being vilified these artists are making themselves into outsider heroes.

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Paul Gauguin, Self-Portrait with Portrait of Émile Bernard (Les misérables)발음듣기

[Steven] We're in the Van Gogh Museum and we're looking at two paintings both self-portraits one by Paul Gauguin and the other by Emile Bernard.발음듣기

[Beth] And there's a third self-portrait associated with these two but it's not here in this museum.발음듣기

[Steven] It's by Van Gogh.발음듣기

And the idea behind all three of these was that these artists who were living in separate places were going to exchange self-portraits as a way of building a community of artists that were outside of the academic salon.발음듣기

[Beth] And this was Van Gogh's idea which makes total sense to me because he was always searching for artists who he could feel really in sync with.발음듣기

[Steven] He got the idea from a tradition that came from Japanese printmakers who would exchange prints among each other.발음듣기

It's really a lovely idea.발음듣기

[Beth] It is a lovely idea and especially for someone who was as lonely and as difficult as Van Gogh was.발음듣기

And you could also think about it in the context of just how isolated it often felt in the late 19th century to be an artist.발음듣기

And looking back across cultures and across time to a moment when artists worked together in communities and workshops.발음듣기

[Steven] Now Van Gogh was down in Provence.발음듣기

He was in the south of France.발음듣기

Gauguin and Emile Bernhard were together up in Pont-Aven in Brittany.발음듣기

Both quite rural places but on opposite ends of France.발음듣기

[Beth] And Pont-Aven actually was an artists community in the late 19th century a place where artists would come together and paint nature.발음듣기

[Steven] And Gauguin had gone there in hopes of getting away from what he saw as the sort of corrupt society of Paris into what he hoped would be a more authentic place where people lived much more closely to the land.발음듣기

[Beth] So here in this painting, though he's specifically identifying himself with a character from a Victor Hugo novel Les Miserable.발음듣기

And the idea is a hero very much like the kinds of heroes we have in Hollywood movies today a kind of loner who does the right thing.발음듣기

[Steven] Think John Wayne, Harrison Ford.발음듣기

These are people who are often breaking laws in order to do the right thing but he is, while not breaking laws at least breaking rules.발음듣기

[Beth] And it may be hard for us to see that today when we look at this painting because it looks very beautiful and like many other Impressionist and post-Impressionist paintings that we love.발음듣기

But to 19th-century eyes this looked harsh and garish in its colors.발음듣기

It looked unfinished.발음듣기

It looked uncomposed.발음듣기

[Steven] Gauguin says in a letter to Van Gogh describing the painting that this was abstract and it's so interesting because now when we think of abstract we often think of geometric shapes and not representational painting.발음듣기

But for Gauguin, this was abstract.발음듣기

It was the turning away from the careful delineation of light and shadow what would've seemed to the eyes of a 19th-century viewer to be very aggressive painting.발음듣기

[Beth] So let's go back to that idea of the loner.발음듣기

How does Gauguin attempt to communicate that idea of the outsider here?발음듣기

[Steven] Well, for one thing he's not in the center of the canvas.발음듣기

He's pushed himself off to the left.발음듣기

He's placed a floral wallpaper in back of him which he actually makes fun of in his letter to Van Gogh.발음듣기

[Beth] Well, he characterizes it as girlish or feminine.발음듣기

[Steven] And he's trying to create a contrast between that ornate, bourgeois wallpaper and the harsh figure himself.발음듣기

[Beth] He forms that stark diagonal line across the lower left corner of the painting.발음듣기

[Steven] He does it with shadow he does it with color and he does it with the heavy outline that describes these forms.발음듣기

[Beth] When you compare it to the Bernard painting he's given himself a real look of intensity.발음듣기

[Steven] Now this is a little bit confusing because you were referring to the other painting by Bernard but Bernard also shows up in the upper right hand corner of this painting.발음듣기

What we're seeing is a canvas by Gauguin that's being sent to Van Gogh but Bernard paints his own self-portrait in the upper right corner of Gauguin's painting so this is actually two self-portraits.발음듣기

And you're right.발음듣기

Gauguin really does look mischievous.발음듣기

[Beth] I think mischievous is an understatement.발음듣기

If I saw him coming down the street I would go the other way.발음듣기

[Steven] This intensity also comes out so clearly in Van Gogh's portrait that he sent to Gauguin in turn.발음듣기

[Beth] And I see it as a kind of scrutinizing a kind of questioning to us.발음듣기

Who are you~?발음듣기

What are your values?발음듣기

Are you sure you think that's right?발음듣기

[Steven] There's a real certainty of his role as existing outside and revealing the truth even if he has to do so violently.발음듣기

This notion of the avant-garde this notion of an artist who stands outside but has a kind of greater perspective is so much based in the previous.발음듣기

100 years of French history if you think about the French revolutions that took place and the series of political upheavals.발음듣기

[Beth] By the end of the 19th century you have not only this history of political revolutions but also an enormous mass middle-class marketplace and it's oppressive.발음듣기

It is demanding art that does certain things that looks a certain way that tells certain kinds of stories.발음듣기

[Steven] The traits that the middle class were looking for that were expressed in the salon were sentiment, virtuosity in terms of painting a kind of rehashing of the traditions of the Baroque and of the Renaissance but now in more modern scenes.발음듣기

[Beth] Well, and much more sentimental.발음듣기

I mean, that's what the middle class wanted was paintings that told a nice story just like we go see Hollywood movies that tell a nice story.발음듣기

And outside of that arena, art is vilified but these artists wanted to do something different.발음듣기

As they're being vilified these artists are making themselves into outsider heroes.발음듣기

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