Ludwig van Beethoven: Symphony No. 5, a conducting lesson by Gerard Schwarz (1st Movement)

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Ludwig van Beethoven: Symphony No. 5, a conducting lesson by Gerard Schwarz (1st Movement)발음듣기

(Symphony No. 5, Ludwig van Beethoven, first movement) Did you ever wonder what the conductor's doing up there?발음듣기

Obviously, when a conductor's waving his hands, he's not making any sound.발음듣기

The musicians are making all the noise, or all the music.발음듣기

In this case, this great orchestra making this great performances.발음듣기

Well, we do have a little influence on what goes on.발음듣기

I thought it'd be interesting to take a few moments in this first movement of the Beethoven Fifth Symphony and tell you what I'm doing and what I'm thinking about while I'm doing it.발음듣기

First, I have to give you a little elementary music lesson, which, if you know it, you can skip past this.발음듣기

But there are a few things we need to know.발음듣기

If you look at the first page of the score, you'll see it says "two, four" at the beginning of the line.발음듣기

Two four means that there are two beats in every measure and a quarter note is getting a beat.발음듣기

The first question is, "What's a measure?"발음듣기

If you look at that score, you'll see a line.발음듣기

It's called a "bar line." You'll have a few notes and a bar line. That is a measure.발음듣기

It's either a bar or a measure.발음듣기

Two beats in each one of those little measures and a quarter note gets a beat.발음듣기

What's a quarter note? Well, you have to understand, in this case, just three note values.발음듣기

A quarter note, like a fraction, 1/4, it's a black note with a stem.발음듣기

A eighth note, which is a black note with a line and an extra flag, and a half note, which is a white note with one stem. They are fractions.발음듣기

How many quarter notes do you get in a half note? Well, two.발음듣기

How many eighth notes do you get in a half note? Four. And that's the whole point.발음듣기

That's it. It's very simple.발음듣기

The other things you need to know, you need to know what a fermata is.발음듣기

A fermata is a sign that a composer puts down for the conductor, performer, to hold a note longer than what's written, but without a specific amount of time.발음듣기

You can judge it on your own.발음듣기

The other thing we have is, we have a tie.발음듣기

A tie is where two half notes are being held together.발음듣기

The tie means you don't re-articulate, you don't repeat that note.발음듣기

To back up again: two, four, how many beats in a measure? Two.발음듣기

What kind of note gets a beat? That's a quarter note.발음듣기

You have a eighth note with a flag, quarter note, no flag, and a half note, which is white, not black.발음듣기

A bar, or a measure, we have a bar line. Pretty simple.발음듣기

Now, let's look some more at the score.발음듣기

It says, "Allegro con brio," which means fast, with bravura, "brio."발음듣기

It also says, if you see, half note equals 108.발음듣기

What does that mean? Well, that's the tempo, the tempo that the composer recommends.발음듣기

It doesn't mean you have to do that, but if I would punch a metronome in, (rhythmic beat) that's 108. There's something important about that.발음듣기

He says, a half note equals 108, which means that he believes that the piece should be felt per bar, one beat per bar, rather than two, even though he wrote it in two four.발음듣기

Okay, now you know all the fundamental material.발음듣기

Let's look at what I do and how it relates to the piece and the performance.발음듣기

The most important thing, you notice that the very first bar has two fs.발음듣기

That means loud, very loud, almost the loudest that we can do.발음듣기

It starts with this little rest.발음듣기

So one more thing to know is a rest.발음듣기

The little rest means you don't play.발음듣기

If you look at the first measure, or the first bar, there's a eighth rest and three eighth notes.발음듣기

The famous three notes, ba, ba, ba, and then it arrives on that half note, bam, with a fermata.발음듣기

What does the conductor have to do?발음듣기

He has to give a good up beat.발음듣기

That's when he brings his hands up.발음듣기

That's up beat, and then boom, down beat.발음듣기

So, crucial to have a good up beat and a good down beat.발음듣기

The up beat and down beat indicate what the tempo is going to be.발음듣기

Great orchestras like this one, you give a sign, like that, and they know exactly how to play.발음듣기

From the first time we played this through, they knew exactly what the tempo was.발음듣기

Then we hold that half note with intensity.발음듣기

We don't let it get softer. There is no decrescendo.발음듣기

There is no diminuendo. Beethoven says, "Keep it loud." Then he has another eighth rest.발음듣기

If you count to the third bar, there's another eighth rest, three more notes, going to another half note, this time tied to a second half note with a fermata indicating, probably should be a little bit longer.발음듣기

Okay. So the conductor, I, give a good, solid up beat.발음듣기

If you notice, we do it slow motion now.발음듣기

I begin from a downward position, I raise my hand, and I give a big, strong, down beat.발음듣기

This indicates the tempo and when the musicians should start. Then I hold with intensity.발음듣기

My hand is strong, to just reinforce the idea to the musicians that they shouldn't get softer.발음듣기

Then I do another wind-up, up beat, and, pht, another big down beat, to again have those four notes played fortissimo, loudly, with the fermata.발음듣기

(First eight notes of Beethoven's 5th Symphony) The next moment is the hardest moment for the conductor.발음듣기

Some conductors actually cut off this half note with the fermata and they add an extra bar.발음듣기

So it would sound "ba, ba, ba, bom," and then "ba, ba, ba, bom," cutoff, (vocalizes melody). They add a whole bar.발음듣기

Many conductors do this. I don't. I think it's wrong.발음듣기

I think if Beethoven wanted to have an extra bar, he would have written an extra bar.발음듣기

The reason that some conductors do that is because, if you notice, the next entrance, if you count the bars, one, two, three, four, five, the sixth bar is marked with a "p."발음듣기

The p means "piano," which obviously means softly. The second violins begin, softly.발음듣기

The problem is that, when you play loudly and the next note, if it's soft, won't be audible.발음듣기

So it's very tricky to cut off the loud at the same time give a beat for the soft.발음듣기

What I do, I hold that second fermata with intensity, I come up, I release, and I bounce.발음듣기

When I bounce up, the second violins know to begin.발음듣기

Let's do this, first slow motion.발음듣기

(slowed-down beginning of Beethoven's 5th Symphony) And now see in real time.발음듣기

(beginning of Beethoven's 5th Symphony, normal speed) What's interesting here, I never have to tell the orchestra how I do it.발음듣기

I just did it, and they were perfect ... every time.발음듣기

Interesting. And when you get an orchestra of this caliber, which is maybe the greatest orchestra ever assembled, the conductor doesn't need to do much, because he's giving all the signs with his hands. Here we go.발음듣기

Now, what happens next? There are a bunch of bars that go on, it's all soft, everybody comes in with a little figure.발음듣기

I'm not doing much here. I don't need to do much here.발음듣기

I mean, I could actually stop conducting, and it wouldn't be a problem, because they would play together.발음듣기

So I keep time, make sure the pulse continues to go at the same speed.발음듣기

Then you notice, there's a piano sign and it says "cresc.", which means "crescendo," get louder, and then it goes to a forte.발음듣기

There are three forte chords, three bars, and another fermata.발음듣기

This fermata only the first violins are holding.발음듣기

Now, the key here is, very important, that the orchestra does not make any crescendo until that one bar.발음듣기

So what the conductor does is, at that bar, he'll give an explosion, or she'll give an explosion.발음듣기

(5th Symphony, softly) That's what I do.발음듣기

Then I give three big chords and a fermata for the first violins, again with intensity.발음듣기

We move on, and we see, again, the three note, three of the eighth rests and eighth notes going to a half note tied to another half note with a fermata, and it's the same routine again.발음듣기

This time, the piano, the soft entrance, is in the first violins and they begin.발음듣기

The next page, we see that the crescendo is over four bars.발음듣기

That's pretty good. That's not as hard.발음듣기

You watch the conductor, you'll watch me, and you can see that my motions are growing with intensity and we arrive at what we call sforzandos, and then continuous forte. Then you'll see fortissimo.발음듣기

What I have to do here is just remind the orchestra that this spot is louder than the one before. Not a big deal.발음듣기

They know it; I just reinforce it.발음듣기

If you watch my motions, I'm conducting forte, big, big motions, with intensity, and then I do something to make it louder and bigger. And you can see that.발음듣기

Again, they could do this without me.발음듣기

The tempo doesn't change, this is the same speed, but I'm reinforcing what's in the score.발음듣기

(5th Symphony, rising in intensity) Then you'll see two big chords and the horns introduce the second theme.발음듣기

They play "ba, ba, ba, bom, bom, bom."발음듣기

Then we go to the second theme, begins in the first violins.발음듣기

(5th Symphony, second theme) The second theme is a very lyrical theme.발음듣기

So my motions are not as choppy and aggressive as they were for the whole beginning. It becomes smooth.발음듣기

What I try to do here is, give an idea of what the phrasing should be.발음듣기

If you look at the violin part, it says: "piano dolce." Dolce, sweetly.발음듣기

You know, we know, go to a restaurant, and the Italian restaurant says "Dolce." That's about the dessert.발음듣기

But what Beethoven's looking for here is a sweet, beautiful quality. He doesn't indicate any dynamics.발음듣기

In other words, it's piano throughout.발음듣기

The question for the conductor is, should there be some phrasing?발음듣기

Should there be some ups and down, like a speech?발음듣기

Or should it be monotone? I like phrasing, so the phrasing I like, you can tell by my motions.발음듣기

It's like an up beat, "da dam," and then "da, da, de, da, da, da"발음듣기

(5th symphony second theme) "Da, da, de, da, da, dum." Two little emphases.발음듣기

The first one, of course, is after that up beat.발음듣기

If you look at my motions, I do that.발음듣기

When I was conducting the orchestra, I never said one word to them about phrasing.발음듣기

I never said they should phrase it this way.발음듣기

I did it, and they followed me.발음듣기

Then, if you notice, we have a little sequence which goes "la, da, di, dam, da, da, di, dam,"발음듣기

da, da, di, dam, da, da, da, dam.발음듣기

What I do is, I do a little louder (vocalizes louder), then a little softer (vocalizes softer).발음듣기

Then a little more (vocalizes louder), then a little less (vocalizes softer).발음듣기

Now, a big crescendo begins, and I start quite softly.발음듣기

(5th Symphony, building up to crescendo) Again, if you watch my motions, I do all of that.발음듣기

I've never said a word to the orchestra about what I was doing. I just did it.발음듣기

Beethoven doesn't indicate any of that, until the crescendo.발음듣기

Then the crescendo, what I do, if you notice my motions, I do the crescendo starting softer, because it's a long crescendo.발음듣기

It goes for 10 bars or so, and I want the crescendo to be gradual.발음듣기

I don't want it too soon.발음듣기

I want it to arrive at the fortissimo.발음듣기

(5th Symphony, crescendo) This fortissimo is a big moment.발음듣기

Again, they don't need me here. It just moves wonderfully through.발음듣기

If they can hear each other, if it's good acoustics in the room, there's not a problem.발음듣기

If you notice, a few bars later, in the cellos and basses, they now have quarter notes.발음듣기

If you notice, the quarter notes don't have any indication.발음듣기

Should they be long? Should they be short?발음듣기

Should they be spaced? All it says is "fortissimo." I like these long.발음듣기

So I have long gestures for the cellos and basses.발음듣기

Again, never said a word to the orchestra.발음듣기

I just made the gesture of long notes, and these incredible musicians just did it, the first time through.발음듣기

(5th Symphony, string section) Remarkable. Then we go to the next page.발음듣기

You'll see we arrive at a double bar with dots, double bar meaning a little thicker bar line.발음듣기

With those two dots, that indicates a repeat.발음듣기

Now, many conductors, in works by the great masters, don't do these repeats.발음듣기

The Beethoven Fifth repeat almost everyone does, because the movement is quite short.발음듣기

But in Brahms' symphonies, for example, most conductors don't do the repeats.발음듣기

I think they should always be done.발음듣기

If you ask me why, the composer wrote them. Brahms wrote a repeat.발음듣기

Am I greater than Brahms? Do I know more than Brahms knows?발음듣기

Certainly not. I do what Brahms tells me to do.발음듣기

On a rare occasion, if a piece is too long or a concert's too long, you can on occasion eliminate a repeat and it doesn't hurt the music.발음듣기

But in principle, I'm a great believer in always doing the repeats.발음듣기

Okay, that's the whole exposition of this great first movement.발음듣기

Once you do that whole repeat, and basically with the same motions and the same ideas, sometime maybe a little variety.발음듣기

Obviously, it's going to be a little different.발음듣기

It's never always going to be the same.발음듣기

Then we move to the development section.발음듣기

The development section, in this case, begins in a very dramatic way, again like the opening, but very different.발음듣기

It gives you the impression that something unusual is going to happen, rather than, we're going to move through this same thing at the beginning.발음듣기

Again, I do it very slightly slower.발음듣기

I mean, you won't even notice it, but it is imperceptibly slower, but with the same kind of intensity.발음듣기

Then, of course, with the same issue after the fermata, how to have the loud release, and with a kind of rebound, the soft begin?발음듣기

(5th Symphony, development section) As you watch and listen to the next section of the development, you'll see little subtle changes in my motions, but basically, it's just keeping everything together, keeping it moving, reinforcing the dynamics, reinforcing the accents that Beethoven wrote, until we get to these place of these half note chords.발음듣기

The half note chords go between the woodwinds and horns and the strings. Back and forth.발음듣기

Back and forth.발음듣기

(5th Symphony, woodwinds and strings) What I try to do is, have them connect.발음듣기

I don't believe that Beethoven intended the woodwinds to be a separate gesture from the string gesture.발음듣기

I mean, one could say it is, but in my estimation, these repeated chords are to be connected.발음듣기

So I give motions that indicate that the players should sustain those half notes full value.발음듣기

Again, without any decrescendo, without getting softer, until it's marked.발음듣기

Then you can see it says, "dimin.", diminuendo, which means, get softer.발음듣기

And we get softer over a period of six bars and then we arrive at a piano. Now we're at a piano.발음듣기

It says, "sempre piu piano."발음듣기

Sempre piu piano means always more piano.발음듣기

Softer, always softer. So "piu" means more.발음듣기

But if it says "piu piano," it means more softly. So we're getting always softer.발음듣기

Then it arrives at two ps, and now it's really soft. It's pianissimo.발음듣기

Then, all of a sudden, there's this huge fortissimo.발음듣기

You've gotten from the softest moment in this symphony to the loudest moment in this symphony, from pianissimo to fortissimo.발음듣기

Again, the conductor's job is simply to reinforce what the composer wrote.발음듣기

I give a big sign for that fortissimo.발음듣기

(5th Symphony, transition from soft to loud) Again, we have the same problem.발음듣기

We have to release the fortissimo and be able to hear the pianissimo, a dialog between the woodwinds and the strings.발음듣기

Once again, I give a big beat to indicate the reinstatement of the fortissimo, and we arrive back at the big fermatas like the beginning.발음듣기

(5th Symphony, repeat of first theme) It's an indication of a, what we call the recapitulation. It's all coming back.발음듣기

But what happens here that's a little different, the oboe takes over, leading to a little oboe cadenza.발음듣기

So if you watch what I do, I gesture to the oboe.발음듣기

Since that's the new material, I want the oboe and everyone to notice that that's what we should listen for. We've heard everything else before.발음듣기

But never this.발음듣기

So the oboe solo begins, I make a gesture towards the oboe, and then it arrives at the oboe cadenza.발음듣기

(5th Symphony, oboe solo) During the oboe cadenza, I never say a word.발음듣기

Our great oboist, John Ferrillo from the Boston Symphony, plays it magnificently.발음듣기

I never discussed it with him.발음듣기

He just played it, and it was perfection.발음듣기

My job, after that, is to anticipate when that last note of his ...발음듣기

Again, it's a note with a fermata.발음듣기

And if you notice this in his cadenza, it says "adagio," which means very slowly.발음듣기

Then, with a fermata for all of us, so we just wait for the oboe.발음듣기

He has an additional fermata on his last note, and then I come in with the same material that we heard from the beginning.발음듣기

(5th Symphony) Again, it leads to forte and then accents, and then fortissimo, and this time, the introduction of the second theme is by the bassoon rather than by the horn.발음듣기

So I look at the bassoon.발음듣기

Believe me, the bassoon could come in without me looking.발음듣기

On the other hand, you never know.발음듣기

Everyone, to have a little reinforcement doesn't hurt.발음듣기

Then we go back to the same second theme, the same kind of phrasing and the same crescendo, except this time, the crescendo's even longer. I think it's 14 bars.발음듣기

And it gets to that big fortissimo.발음듣기

What I do, I slow down slightly.발음듣기

Beethoven was known for, at the biggest moments, sometimes not forging ahead but holding back, and I hold the tempo slightly back to that fortissimo.발음듣기

Then immediately I do what we call "a tempo," back in the same speed that it was going before.발음듣기

Now we go, this whole section is quite loud, with accents.발음듣기

Sometimes there are some issues with what we call ensemble, so I have to give a little clear beat to make sure everyone can jump in and find their moments.발음듣기

(5th Symphony, entire orchestra) And then, there's this big loud note and then there's a soft "ba, ba, ba, bam" by the woodwinds.발음듣기

Then, there's a bar rest and then another big beat like the beginning.발음듣기

This is a tricky spot for the conductor because he ends big, or she ends big, then gives a little sign for the woodwinds, and then you have to be very careful not to give any sign for that bar rest so that no one jumps in.발음듣기

You give a big sign for when they're supposed to come in.발음듣기

(5th Symphony, entire orchestra comes in) And then we have this great moment for the whole ending, where I love hearing this horns playing this passage and the timpani.발음듣기

If you watch me, I give a sign for the horns and I give this big sign for the timpani, and the timpani actually, it's only marked forte, but I actually give the sign to indicate that he should play it louder, which he did.발음듣기

Again, I never said a word.발음듣기

I just gave a big sign for that.발음듣기

As we move forward, again, and the cellos, basses, and this time with the violas, these quarter notes come back in.발음듣기

Again, the question is, how long should they be?발음듣기

If you watch me, I'm indicating they should be long. Everybody played them long.발음듣기

Then, it gets to the real climax of the movement.발음듣기

Again, I hold the tempo back.발음듣기

Then we move to another dialog between the woodwinds and the strings (5th Symphony, woodwinds and strings) Again I try to connect, so you see in my motions that I'm holding that last quarter note of the woodwinds, holding the last note of the strings, so that we all connect and have one sentence, rather than a sentence that's chopped up.발음듣기

Finally, we get to the very end, again with the same gesture like the beginning, the same fermata.발음듣기

(5th Symphony, repeat of beginning) The coda is very short and very beautiful.발음듣기

It really is a section for the woodwinds, and I try to phrase that.발음듣기

If you watch me now, you'll see that I do a little phrasing for the woodwinds.발음듣기

(5th Symphony, woodwinds playing softly) And then, immediately, we're back to the fortissimo and go to the end of the movement without any slowing down, without slowing of intensity, and in a very dramatic way.발음듣기

So I think you've seen, in the description of what goes on, in this movement, for example, much of it can be played, the orchestra can play by themselves.발음듣기

But there are those moments where they need me, and my job is to be there when they need me.발음듣기

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