Morisot, The Mother and Sister of the Artist

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Morisot, The Mother and Sister of the Artist

(piano playing) Dr. Zucker: We're in the National Gallery of Art in Washington, DC.

We're looking at a really fantastic canvas by Bert Morisot, one of the great impressionist painters, a woman who was not the only painter involved in this canvas.

Dr. Harris: Apparently not, apparently Manet, who was her brother-in-law, came over one day and felt quite at liberty to paint over areas of the canvas.

Dr. Zucker: What's what.

Dr. Harris: At least to us.

Dr. Zucker: Apparently she was not happy about it.

Dr. Harris: No.

Dr. Harris: Presumptuous.

Dr. Zucker: It says something about gender relations at the time ...

Dr. Zucker: ... And what it meant for a woman to be a painter.

Dr. Harris: Of course, typically for a woman impressionist artist, we have an interior domestic scene.

Dr. Zucker: In fact, this is the artists mother and sister.

Dr. Harris: It would have been very difficult for a woman artist at this time, unlike her male counterparts to be in bars painting some cabaret scenes Dr. Zucker: Absolutely inappropriate ...

Dr. Harris: ... or street scenes, right.

Dr. Harris: So we get these ...

Dr. Harris: Exactly, so get these interior scenes and people who are her family as her models.

Dr. Zucker: The women are doing what women would be expected to spend their time doing, Dr. Harris: Embroidery, right.

Dr. Zucker: Absolutely.

We're seeing a really luscious interior.

Dr. Harris: It's sad, the woman in the center looks sad to me.

Dr. Zucker: And trapped.

Dr. Zucker: ... in that social space.

Dr. Harris: The woman in the foreground, her mother, it looks as though she's in mourning in this black dress.

Not that I think the painting is about mourning or anything, it's clearly of a modern Parisian interior, but it's hard not to see something about women's domestic life here and the sense of entrapment, at least for me, as a viewer in the early 21st Century.

Dr. Zucker: That sense is heightened by the fact that it's painted by the younger woman's sister who's in a sense trying to find a way out and is confronting all of those expectations and what that means, which I think is an enormously complex and difficult path for her to have taken.

Dr. Harris: Actually, if I remember correctly, both Bert and her sister took painting lessons.

It was only Bert who went on to pursue art as a career and her sister who got married and had children.

Dr. Zucker: You step back.

Dr. Harris: It's hard not to read some of those things into this.

Dr. Zucker: It is.

The canvas itself is beautifully handled, incredibly lush, and there's a kind of openness and a kind of willingness to risk Dr. Harris: Yeah.

Dr. Zucker: ... that I think is quite extraordinary for this period.

Dr. Harris: It is.

Dr. Harris: Four years.

Dr. Zucker: ... four to five years before the first impressionist exhibition and already we see an artist who is really fulfilling some of the most important aspects Dr. Harris: Of the impressionist moment.

Dr. Zucker: ... as impressionism.

I don't want to say fulfilling, but I want to say actually, in a sense, leading that charge.

Dr. Harris: You can see areas where the contours are open.

Things look unfinished, look at the mother's right hand for example.

This had a kind of radical unfinished quality.

Dr. Zucker: There are passages that are incredibly abstract.

If you look at the negative space on the lower left that it's just inside the leg of the table, it's just this beautiful, purely abstract form.

Dr. Harris: Pinks and purples, it's lovely.

Dr. Zucker: Absolutely, it's really just about color and form.

I think there are passages like that throughout.

Her willingness to use grey's, her attention to the tone here is really quite extraordinary.

Dr. Harris: The use of blues and purples and shadows, not modeling in the normal tonal way.

Dr. Zucker: I have to say that when I look at Morisot's, I am almost always overwhelmed by her bravery.

Dr. Harris: Yeah.

Dr. Zucker: Not only because of what she was accomplishing as a woman, but literally just because of the way in which she is willing to handle her paint.

Dr. Harris: As a painter. (piano playing)

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(piano playing) Dr. Zucker: We're in the National Gallery of Art in Washington, DC.발음듣기

We're looking at a really fantastic canvas by Bert Morisot, one of the great impressionist painters, a woman who was not the only painter involved in this canvas.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: Apparently not, apparently Manet, who was her brother-in-law, came over one day and felt quite at liberty to paint over areas of the canvas.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: What's what.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: At least to us.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: Apparently she was not happy about it.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: No.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: Presumptuous.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: It says something about gender relations at the time ...발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: ... And what it meant for a woman to be a painter.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: Of course, typically for a woman impressionist artist, we have an interior domestic scene.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: In fact, this is the artists mother and sister.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: It would have been very difficult for a woman artist at this time, unlike her male counterparts to be in bars painting some cabaret scenes Dr. Zucker: Absolutely inappropriate ...발음듣기

Dr. Harris: ... or street scenes, right.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: So we get these ...발음듣기

Dr. Harris: Exactly, so get these interior scenes and people who are her family as her models.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: The women are doing what women would be expected to spend their time doing, Dr. Harris: Embroidery, right.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: Absolutely.발음듣기

We're seeing a really luscious interior.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: It's sad, the woman in the center looks sad to me.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: And trapped.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: ... in that social space.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: The woman in the foreground, her mother, it looks as though she's in mourning in this black dress.발음듣기

Not that I think the painting is about mourning or anything, it's clearly of a modern Parisian interior, but it's hard not to see something about women's domestic life here and the sense of entrapment, at least for me, as a viewer in the early 21st Century.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: That sense is heightened by the fact that it's painted by the younger woman's sister who's in a sense trying to find a way out and is confronting all of those expectations and what that means, which I think is an enormously complex and difficult path for her to have taken.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: Actually, if I remember correctly, both Bert and her sister took painting lessons.발음듣기

It was only Bert who went on to pursue art as a career and her sister who got married and had children.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: You step back.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: It's hard not to read some of those things into this.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: It is.발음듣기

The canvas itself is beautifully handled, incredibly lush, and there's a kind of openness and a kind of willingness to risk Dr. Harris: Yeah.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: ... that I think is quite extraordinary for this period.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: It is.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: Four years.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: ... four to five years before the first impressionist exhibition and already we see an artist who is really fulfilling some of the most important aspects Dr. Harris: Of the impressionist moment.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: ... as impressionism.발음듣기

I don't want to say fulfilling, but I want to say actually, in a sense, leading that charge.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: You can see areas where the contours are open.발음듣기

Things look unfinished, look at the mother's right hand for example.발음듣기

This had a kind of radical unfinished quality.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: There are passages that are incredibly abstract.발음듣기

If you look at the negative space on the lower left that it's just inside the leg of the table, it's just this beautiful, purely abstract form.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: Pinks and purples, it's lovely.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: Absolutely, it's really just about color and form.발음듣기

I think there are passages like that throughout.발음듣기

Her willingness to use grey's, her attention to the tone here is really quite extraordinary.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: The use of blues and purples and shadows, not modeling in the normal tonal way.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: I have to say that when I look at Morisot's, I am almost always overwhelmed by her bravery.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: Yeah.발음듣기

Dr. Zucker: Not only because of what she was accomplishing as a woman, but literally just because of the way in which she is willing to handle her paint.발음듣기

Dr. Harris: As a painter. (piano playing)발음듣기

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