Dorothea Rockburne: Drawing Which Makes Itself

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Dorothea Rockburne: Drawing Which Makes Itself발음듣기

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[Dorothea] Drawing is the bones of thought.발음듣기

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I always find I'm reading or seeing or doing something and the only way I can think is with my hands and drawing.발음듣기

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I went to Black Mountain College in 1950.발음듣기

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Two weeks after I was at Black Mountain I must have said something because Max came up to me and said, "I want you to take my class."발음듣기

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Max Dehn was a mathematician.발음듣기

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While people came from all over the world just to study with him, he never had more than three students, but the students he had were really significant.발음듣기

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When he asked me to take his class, I was horrified.발음듣기

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I said, "I've had no training; I can't take your class."발음듣기

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He said, "You haven't been math poisoned" which is right.발음듣기

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He said, "I will teach you mathematics for artists."발음듣기

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He showed me mathematics in nature.발음듣기

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He wasn't teaching a mathematician, he was teaching an artist how to think mathematically.발음듣기

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It was so wonderful and so heady.발음듣기

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I felt big! (laughs)발음듣기

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I was studying transitive geometry and I wanted to find a transitive material.발음듣기

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I located the carbon paper, and by folding and unfolding the sheets, I could transpose the equations I'd been working into a materialized artwork.발음듣기

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I was very interested in the fact that the whole room should represent the art.발음듣기

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I painted the walls with the brightest white paint you could find.발음듣기

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As people walked into the room, their footprints became part of the drawing.발음듣기

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That was my plan.발음듣기

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I lived on Chamber Street.발음듣기

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I was working all kinds of jobs at once plus I had a child I was raising, and I didn't have the money to buy art supplies; they were expensive.발음듣기

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So I went across the street to the hardware store and I bought crude oil, gallons of crude oil.발음듣기

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People look on the crude oil as a big insight into material.발음듣기

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Believe me, it was not.발음듣기

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It was accident. (laughs)발음듣기

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But I also had done some tests and I knew what it would do and I knew that it had incredible properties.발음듣기

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Color-wise it fell right into my Beaux-Arts training because this was a natural, in the earth material and to me it has a lot of color.발음듣기

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By this time I'd been looking at a lot of Italian painting and realized that they were all based on the golden mean.발음듣기

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I was very familiar with what the golden mean looked like.발음듣기

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Our bodies are all golden mean.발음듣기

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This is all golden mean.발음듣기

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Everything is, you begin to realize. (laughs)발음듣기

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It's a magic proportion.발음듣기

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If you do anything using it, you can't go wrong.발음듣기

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It's bound to be a success!발음듣기

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It's amazing!발음듣기

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I wanted to work with curves because everything that moves in the universe moves on an elliptical.발음듣기

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I was able to work with the watercolor very, very thick, so it has a real presence to it.발음듣기

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The canvas has been painted white, so that acts like the white surface of paper, and it resonates through the colors.발음듣기

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When one is dealing with art or mathematics, there's always an element of magic.발음듣기

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If everything adds up and works out well, you're on the wrong trail.발음듣기

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