Housing price conundrum (part 2)

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Housing price conundrum (part 2)발음듣기

Before I go a into an explanation of why housing prices skyrocketed from 2000 to 2006, I think it's a good idea to give a little history of what the housing market and the mortgage market used to be like before things got out of control.발음듣기

So let's go back to, say, I don't know.발음듣기

Let's go back to the late '70s - maybe mid-'70s, actually.발음듣기

I remember my parents, they bought a house.발음듣기

We lived in New Orleans.발음듣기

And the house, if I remember correctly, it cost roughly $60,000.발음듣기

And back then, to buy a house - and actually, for a while, until more recently - in order to buy a house you had to put 25% down.발음듣기

So 25% of $60,000 is 1/4 of it.발음듣기

So you have to put $15,000 down.발음듣기

So you have to save up $15,000.발음듣기

And then you're going to get a mortgage on $45,000, right?발음듣기

$45,000, you're going to borrow.발음듣기

And I forgot the exact interest rates then, but I'm just going to throw out a number.발음듣기

This is really just for instructive purposes.발음듣기

Let's say interest rates back then, they were higher.발음듣기

They were like 9%, I think.발음듣기

So 9% on $45,000.발음듣기

How much interest am I going to pay?발음듣기

45,000 times 0.09.발음듣기

So I'm going to pay a little over $4,000 a year in interest. Or if I divide by 12, about $340 a month in interest.발음듣기

And I remember at the time, we actually moved out of our house and we rented it out, because we needed cash.발음듣기

And we rented out that exact same house - and I this is in the late '70s or early '80s - we rented out that exact same house for $900.발음듣기

The rent was $900.발음듣기

So this raises, I guess, a couple of questions.발음듣기

First of all, the big question is, why did those people who rented our house - I mean, they paid $900 a month.발음듣기

They must have had a good income, for that time.발음듣기

Why were they willing to pay rent, when they could have bought a house, where the mortgage would have been - interest plus a little principal - it would have been no more than $400 a month?발음듣기

So why would you just throw away - this is the classic rent-versus-buy argument - why would you throw away $900, where you could actually build equity paying $400 a month for the exact same place?발음듣기

And you can think about that a little bit.발음듣기

But there's a bunch of reasons.발음듣기

What was necessary to buy a house then?발음듣기

Well, one, you needed a $15,000 down payment.발음듣기

Maybe these people had really good cash flow every month, but they just never had the circumstances, or maybe even the discipline, to save up $15,000.발음듣기

You also needed a really steady job.발음듣기

So you needed - this is the down payment, this is one thing.발음듣기

You also needed a steady job.발음듣기

Maybe the people who were renting, they were working odd jobs, or they didn't have a steady income.발음듣기

Although I doubt it.발음듣기

I don't think we would have actually leased the house to them, had that been the case.발음듣기

They probably had that.발음듣기

And then the last thing you needed to get a mortgage, you needed good credit.발음듣기

And maybe these people didn't have that.발음듣기

Maybe they didn't pay some bills in the past.발음듣기

And they just couldn't find a bank that was willing to give them a loan, despite having a steady job and the $15,000 down.발음듣기

If you have to ask me, I think the biggest barrier for this family at that time was probably the $15,000 down payment.발음듣기

And frankly, they probably had trouble saving $15,000 because they were busy paying $900 in rent.발음듣기

So that was the circumstance throughout, actually, most of modern history.발음듣기

That you had this barrier towards buying a house.발음듣기

That it did make sense, that the conventional wisdom that it is better to buy than rent held.발음듣기

It's just, everyone knew that, but a lot of people just couldn't buy, even though they wanted to, because they didn't have the down payment.발음듣기

They didn't have the steady job.발음듣기

Or they didn't have the good credit.발음듣기

That was a circumstance then, and that lasted for some time.발음듣기

What happened in the early 2000s?발음듣기

And it actually happened in California in the mid-'90s.발음듣기

But it got more and more, I guess we could say, flagrant, as we went through the decade - is that people started lowering these standards.발음듣기

And I'll do a whole other video on possibly why those standards were lowered.발음듣기

But let's say that in 1980 you needed 25% down.발음듣기

Let me just switch colors.발음듣기

That color is kind of ugly.발음듣기

You needed a steady job.발음듣기

And you needed a, I don't know.발음듣기

Let's say you needed a 700 credit score.발음듣기

And that was true from 1980 to, let's say, 2000.발음듣기

I'm exaggerating a bit.발음듣기

But this is just to give you the broad sense of what actually happened.발음듣기

But let's say then, in 2001 - and I'll explain later why this might have happened - the standards were lowered.발음듣기

That if you wanted to buy a house, all of a sudden you could actually find someone who was willing to give you a house for 10% down, maybe kind of a steady job, maybe just need a job.발음듣기

And maybe you had a 600 credit rating.발음듣기

So what happens when the standards on the mortgage go from this to this?발음듣기

Let's go back to these people who used to rent that house from us for $900.발음듣기

Maybe they didn't have $15,000, right?발음듣기

That would have been a 25% down payment.발음듣기

But maybe back then, they had 10%.발음듣기

Maybe they had $6,000.발음듣기

They just couldn't get up to $15,000 in savings.발음듣기

Back when they were doing this, back in the '80s, if the standards got a little bit freer, like they did in the early 2000s, those people could have bought a house.발음듣기

They would have said, man, we don't have to rent anymore.발음듣기

We saved up the 10% down payment.발음듣기

It's gotten a little easier.발음듣기

Our job now meets the requirements.발음듣기

Our credit now meets the requirements.발음듣기

We can go buy that house.발음듣기

So that would have increased the aggregate demand for housing.발음듣기

Even though, even if no one's incomes increased, even if the population didn't increase.발음듣기

All of a sudden, there's a new person who could get financing to buy a house.발음듣기

And then if we go to, let's say, 2003.발음듣기

They say, you know what, you don't even need any down payment. No down.발음듣기

No money down.발음듣기

So you can imagine, there's a whole set of people who maybe had a decent income, but they couldn't save any money.발음듣기

Now all of a sudden there was no down payment barrier to buying a house.발음듣기

Maybe you still needed a job.발음듣기

And maybe you just needed a 500 credit. Right?발음듣기

So all of a sudden, without people's incomes going up, without more jobs being available, without the population increase, there were more people who could get financing.발음듣기

Or more people who could bid up homes.발음듣기

And the situation actually got pretty bad.발음듣기

By 2004, 2005 - and this isn't exact, but it gives you a sense of what happened.발음듣기

By 2004, 2005, you had a situation where they had these stated income - they had these things called liar loans.발음듣기

Maybe I'll do videos on each of these.발음듣기

But these were essentially no down payment.발음듣기

If you had a job, you could kind of make it up.발음듣기

You just said, I have a job.발음듣기

They wouldn't validate it.발음듣기

These were stated income.발음듣기

You could just say what you made.발음듣기

So even though the mortgage might require an income of $10,000 a month, and your income is only $2,000 a month, you could say your income is $10,000 a month.발음듣기

So stated income, no down, maybe a job.발음듣기

And they didn't even do a credit check.발음듣기

So what happened from 2000 to 2004 is that credit just got easier and easier and easier.발음듣기

And every time credit got easier, there were more people who, despite the fact that they weren't making any more money, they were able to get financing.발음듣기

And so the pool of people who were able to bid on homes, or the demand for homes because now there was this financing, became larger and larger.발음듣기

And that's what increased the prices of homes.발음듣기

And now you know, the obvious question is, well, why did this happen?발음듣기

First of all, why did they get easier in 2001, get easier and easier as we went to 2004?발음듣기

And why did they get to this unbelievably absurd level, where by 2004 and 2005 - you hear stories, especially in California and Florida, of people who were making maybe $40,000 a year.발음듣기

And they were able to buy houses with no money down.발음듣기

Some of these people were migrant laborers.발음듣기

And they were able to buy houses for $1 million.발음듣기

So in the next video, I will tell you why that happened.발음듣기

Why were people willing to give their cash to people to buy a house that had a very low likelihood of getting paid back, and for a house that had a very low likelihood of being able to retain its value.발음듣기

I'll see you in the next video.발음듣기

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